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Post by Jo Pearson on Sept 7, 2008 23:44:06 GMT
OK, so that we don't get OT in other threads talking about it, here's a thread specifically for chat about the forthcoming US presidential election.... So, if you want to talk about the election, this is the place to do it - Just remember to play nice when you do, and leave the mud-slinging to the professional politicians!! ;D
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Post by meeshhead on Sept 8, 2008 3:59:30 GMT
Yeah, some people are really passionate about politics, so I hope it won't get out of hand.
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Post by mischalover85 on Sept 8, 2008 7:57:02 GMT
Well, I'm not American but as I was saying in the other thread, if I were I'd vote Obama. I think he can bring some freshness on the politic field, and we would really need someone like him here in Italy too, where you always see the same faces for decades ruling the country or anyway being in politics. It's time to give space to younger people and Obama is young so good for the U.S.A. if he wins the elections, at least IMHO.
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Post by nililah on Sept 8, 2008 8:52:25 GMT
well I am not a American too But I would vote for Obama as well like he said he looks like one of us and his ideas are beneficial for USA I think As I heard McCain beats Obama despite the Sarah fact.Sarah Palin is a shame btw
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Post by Jo Pearson on Sept 8, 2008 13:43:35 GMT
Obama would be good, and I hope he does get in - he's certainly got my vote. As for McCain, while I don't agree with his politics, I do think that, as a person, he's certainly a lot better than Bush (not that that's saying much!!!)...
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Post by meeshhead on Sept 8, 2008 18:36:15 GMT
Obama would be good, and I hope he does get in - he's certainly got my vote. As for McCain, while I don't agree with his politics, I do think that, as a person, he's certainly a lot better than Bush (not that that's saying much!!!)... I think that Bush has been a puppet through most of the last 8 years. I don't think that he is capable of making most of the decisions that were made. Now he's being used as a scapegoat. He wasn't at the Republican convention, and his name was hardly mentioned, which is extremely rare at political conventions
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Post by meeshluv on Sept 8, 2008 18:53:53 GMT
Well, I'm not an American citizen either, so I can't vote or anything like that, but I've got to say I hope Obama gets in too. And as for McCain vs Bush, well, I just don't trust McCain at all... Just look at his war record, for example - While George W. Bush was serving heroically in the Air National Guard, bravely protecting Texas from invading commie hordes, what was John McCain doing? Dodging active service by spending six years hiding away in a North Vietnamese prison camp!!!!! ;D
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Post by meeshhead on Sept 8, 2008 19:00:06 GMT
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Post by california on Sept 8, 2008 21:08:45 GMT
All I know about them is what Perez writes but I love love love Obama.
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Post by Jo Pearson on Sept 9, 2008 0:13:28 GMT
Well, I'm not an American citizen either, so I can't vote or anything like that, but I've got to say I hope Obama gets in too. And as for McCain vs Bush, well, I just don't trust McCain at all... Just look at his war record, for example - While George W. Bush was serving heroically in the Air National Guard, bravely protecting Texas from invading commie hordes, what was John McCain doing? Dodging active service by spending six years hiding away in a North Vietnamese prison camp!!!!! ;D OMG, Adrian!!!! I'm definitely PMSL at that one - It's BRILLIANT!!!!!!! And that's one of the things I do kind of like about McCain as a person (rather than as a politician) - With what he went through back then, he's actually earned the right to be where he is now, unlike some others I could mention who got there thanks to daddy and his friends...
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Post by california on Sept 9, 2008 21:30:20 GMT
McCain Pulls AheadSince the Republican National Convention, John McCain has gained 6 points over his Democratic rival, Barack Obama, amongst Independent voters. According to a new Gallup poll, McCain now leads Obama by a whopping 15% percent - 52% to 37% - in support from Independents. Source:perezhilton.com/2008-09-09-mccain-pulls-ahead-2
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Post by meeshhead on Sept 9, 2008 21:42:08 GMT
McCain Pulls AheadSince the Republican National Convention, John McCain has gained 6 points over his Democratic rival, Barack Obama, amongst Independent voters. According to a new Gallup poll, McCain now leads Obama by a whopping 15% percent - 52% to 37% - in support from Independents. Source:perezhilton.com/2008-09-09-mccain-pulls-ahead-2 I guess that his lies (proven) are working.
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Post by mischalover85 on Sept 10, 2008 7:06:11 GMT
I've heard that Obama made a mistake in a TV interview, and speaking of his religion he mistakenly said "islamic" instead of "Christian" or something like that. So, is that only a mistake, or is he hiding his true religion? Either way, this can't help him...
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Post by meeshluv on Sept 10, 2008 11:10:04 GMT
I've heard that Obama made a mistake in a TV interview, and speaking of his religion he mistakenly said "islamic" instead of "Christian" or something like that. So, is that only a mistake, or is he hiding his true religion? Either way, this can't help him... What you have to keep in mind with all of these polls is the slightly strange way (to anyone outside the US) that the election process works. In just about every other country where they have an elected President, the elections work purely on the popular vote. But in the US, the total percentage of the popular vote doesn't really mean anything - Bush lost the popular vote, but still got in! And that's because the final result depends upon winning individual States. In the US system, each State has a certain number of "votes" (think of them as being like "points" in a sports championship), which a candidate gets for winning the popular vote in that State, and the guy who eventually gets to sit in the Oval Office is the one who gets the most "points".... But the number of "points" a State has often doesn't have any relationship with the size of the population of that State compared to others. Some States have quite small populations, but winning the State gets you a lot of "points", while other states with comparatively large populations have fewer "points". So it's possible to get a lot of "points" simply by winning the vote in a few States which have comparatively small populations, but which carry a large number of "points". And that's how you can win the election, despite not winning the popular vote (although I understand that having help from the courts helps too... ) At least that's how I, as an outsider, understand it works - Maybe Jo, Irvin or someone else who actually lives there can explain it better??...
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Post by mischalover85 on Sept 10, 2008 11:41:06 GMT
Yeah, I know the elections in the U.S.A. are pretty complicated...let's hope someone of the Americans of this forum can help us understand better how they work!
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